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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12464</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 12:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you see the Haditha articles in Time and Newsweek? Man, oh, man...my daughter(17years old) who loves to read rather than watch the news brought them to my attention in horror. I told her I had already seen them and we have to wait and see...and there is more to things than meets the eye...
But for that to catch her attention, a  typical teenager who doesn&#039;t pay much attention to anything but herself and her world, that makes me worry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you see the Haditha articles in Time and Newsweek? Man, oh, man&#8230;my daughter(17years old) who loves to read rather than watch the news brought them to my attention in horror. I told her I had already seen them and we have to wait and see&#8230;and there is more to things than meets the eye&#8230;<br />
But for that to catch her attention, a  typical teenager who doesn&#8217;t pay much attention to anything but herself and her world, that makes me worry.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12428</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 14:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, CJ, I am not suggesting that there be a deafest attitude or a pull out.

 What I read about Vietnam is that it failed because of the lack of will and what they called &quot;gradualism&quot;. They explain that gradualism is where the we (USA)began pausing in our efforts and thus gave the enemy time to recover and regain strength because of fear of using too much strength.

It states in this report called &quot;Gradualism- Fuel of Wars:

The first- a cardinal feature of the Eisenhower years- was to ensure peace through unmistakable determination to protect vital U.S. interests anywhere in the world. This determination was made plainly evident to all through Administration statements and deeds. It was a policy of credible firmness, which retained initiative and freedom of action in American hands. There was no apology for strength, and no mistaking the sterness of the national will.
And America stayed at peace.
Beginning in 1961, however, two new doctrines began to evolve that have radically altered our nation&#039;s defense planning. One is known as &quot;flexible repsonse&quot;; the other is called &quot;gradualism.&quot; Both doctrines de-emphasize our strength, leash our power and replace our superiority with &quot;parity,&quot; all in the euphoric hope that through demonstrations of peaceful purpose and restraint, America would entice her sworn enemies away from aggression.
However well intended, these departures have been tragic for our country. Prudent firmness was displaced by extreme caution, hesitancy, then indecisiveness. As doctrines of response, not of intiative, they have created a worldwide crisis of confidence in U.S. deterrence, undermined our alliances and divided the nation. In place of peace they have actually fostered aggression and escalated a war.
Flexible response, in the current thinking, does not mean, as it has historically meant, the capability to respond to a variety of threats with applicable and sufficient force to crush them. It now means that an aggressor&#039;s military excursions will initially encounter only comparable force-i.e., it is a deliberate policy of reaction, leading to stalemate.

Thus war is invited, as aggressors are given the freedom to choose the time, place and means of doing battle, all with an acceptable risk. Assured that America&#039;s crushing force will be dribbled into battle, the military marauder is encouraged to bellieve that even a protracted conlfict will be pursued on his terms.

As this new version of &quot;flexible respinse&quot; invites war once it has begun. The policy says that, just as with our first reactions to aggression, subsequent U.S. reactions will also be cautiously phased to prevent overapplication of force. The process can hardly fail to nourish a skirmish into a major war. Moreover, after each carefully restrained escalation there will be a &quot;pause.&quot; This ingenuous stratagem provides in a effect a one-sided military recess during which the enemy is importuned to recalculate his risks and contritely review his indiscretions as his own depredations continue. The &quot;pause&quot; occurring when the aggressor&#039;s force has been at least temporarily stalemated by our military effort, actually enables our enemy to recoup his strength at his most vulnerable moment. Thus rejuvenated by successive pauses, he continues and intensifies the struggle.

America&#039;s laboratory for testing gradualism has been in Vietnam. There it has failed- it has prolonged and escalated the war. 
Published in 1968

There is more be I think you get the idea. We are during this in especially when it comes to Iran!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, CJ, I am not suggesting that there be a deafest attitude or a pull out.</p>
<p> What I read about Vietnam is that it failed because of the lack of will and what they called &#8220;gradualism&#8221;. They explain that gradualism is where the we (USA)began pausing in our efforts and thus gave the enemy time to recover and regain strength because of fear of using too much strength.</p>
<p>It states in this report called &#8220;Gradualism- Fuel of Wars:</p>
<p>The first- a cardinal feature of the Eisenhower years- was to ensure peace through unmistakable determination to protect vital U.S. interests anywhere in the world. This determination was made plainly evident to all through Administration statements and deeds. It was a policy of credible firmness, which retained initiative and freedom of action in American hands. There was no apology for strength, and no mistaking the sterness of the national will.<br />
And America stayed at peace.<br />
Beginning in 1961, however, two new doctrines began to evolve that have radically altered our nation&#8217;s defense planning. One is known as &#8220;flexible repsonse&#8221;; the other is called &#8220;gradualism.&#8221; Both doctrines de-emphasize our strength, leash our power and replace our superiority with &#8220;parity,&#8221; all in the euphoric hope that through demonstrations of peaceful purpose and restraint, America would entice her sworn enemies away from aggression.<br />
However well intended, these departures have been tragic for our country. Prudent firmness was displaced by extreme caution, hesitancy, then indecisiveness. As doctrines of response, not of intiative, they have created a worldwide crisis of confidence in U.S. deterrence, undermined our alliances and divided the nation. In place of peace they have actually fostered aggression and escalated a war.<br />
Flexible response, in the current thinking, does not mean, as it has historically meant, the capability to respond to a variety of threats with applicable and sufficient force to crush them. It now means that an aggressor&#8217;s military excursions will initially encounter only comparable force-i.e., it is a deliberate policy of reaction, leading to stalemate.</p>
<p>Thus war is invited, as aggressors are given the freedom to choose the time, place and means of doing battle, all with an acceptable risk. Assured that America&#8217;s crushing force will be dribbled into battle, the military marauder is encouraged to bellieve that even a protracted conlfict will be pursued on his terms.</p>
<p>As this new version of &#8220;flexible respinse&#8221; invites war once it has begun. The policy says that, just as with our first reactions to aggression, subsequent U.S. reactions will also be cautiously phased to prevent overapplication of force. The process can hardly fail to nourish a skirmish into a major war. Moreover, after each carefully restrained escalation there will be a &#8220;pause.&#8221; This ingenuous stratagem provides in a effect a one-sided military recess during which the enemy is importuned to recalculate his risks and contritely review his indiscretions as his own depredations continue. The &#8220;pause&#8221; occurring when the aggressor&#8217;s force has been at least temporarily stalemated by our military effort, actually enables our enemy to recoup his strength at his most vulnerable moment. Thus rejuvenated by successive pauses, he continues and intensifies the struggle.</p>
<p>America&#8217;s laboratory for testing gradualism has been in Vietnam. There it has failed- it has prolonged and escalated the war.<br />
Published in 1968</p>
<p>There is more be I think you get the idea. We are during this in especially when it comes to Iran!</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12389</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The terrorists have won in a way in my eyes&quot;

I guess my response would be, &quot;So, should we let them win and just pull out.&quot;  That would only serve to embolden them.  They would take over the entire country and it would be worse off than before we went in.  

It is a battle of wills and we need to be stronger than them.  Are we Americans so comfortable in our prosperity that we are too weak to stand up for anything that doesn&#039;t directly affect us?  Why are their wills stronger than ours?  This is the greatest country on this earth and we can&#039;t stand up to a destructive ideology?  There&#039;s something wrong there.

I&#039;m not concerned with Canada, those guys were found.  They&#039;re here in the United States as well, I bet on it.  The difference between what just happened anything else the terrorists have done is that the terrorists failed...again.  They&#039;re failing because we are not letting them rest.  

Guess where the first mentions of &quot;Vietnam&quot; came from? Hint: it wasn&#039;t the terrorists.  Hint: It was any Iraqi.  Hint:  It wasn&#039;t the military fighting this war.  Nope, it was the Democrats and defeatists.  The &quot;guerilla&#039;s&quot; just picked up on that and ran with it, knowing our leftist media would take the torch from them and continue the race with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The terrorists have won in a way in my eyes&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess my response would be, &#8220;So, should we let them win and just pull out.&#8221;  That would only serve to embolden them.  They would take over the entire country and it would be worse off than before we went in.  </p>
<p>It is a battle of wills and we need to be stronger than them.  Are we Americans so comfortable in our prosperity that we are too weak to stand up for anything that doesn&#8217;t directly affect us?  Why are their wills stronger than ours?  This is the greatest country on this earth and we can&#8217;t stand up to a destructive ideology?  There&#8217;s something wrong there.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not concerned with Canada, those guys were found.  They&#8217;re here in the United States as well, I bet on it.  The difference between what just happened anything else the terrorists have done is that the terrorists failed&#8230;again.  They&#8217;re failing because we are not letting them rest.  </p>
<p>Guess where the first mentions of &#8220;Vietnam&#8221; came from? Hint: it wasn&#8217;t the terrorists.  Hint: It was any Iraqi.  Hint:  It wasn&#8217;t the military fighting this war.  Nope, it was the Democrats and defeatists.  The &#8220;guerilla&#8217;s&#8221; just picked up on that and ran with it, knowing our leftist media would take the torch from them and continue the race with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12388</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is trolling? 
Chris, they are creating Vietnam...this isn&#039;t as much conventional warfare as it is guerrilla warfare.
But we have to remember that even though there are people on both sides of this issue in America, that they are Still Americans. Plus, where the media is concerned...they follow the story and it is usually the negative one. This war is a propaganda war, more a war of wills. Plus look at how many Iraqis have died at the hands of these so-called insurgents. Look at the IED&#039;s...that is called low-cost but effective ways to break the will of the people and harm our troops. That is the same tactics that were used in Vietnam to frighten the locals and break the will of the American people. It worked then and it appears to be working now.
 The terrorists have won in a way in my eyes...they have most people worried about another attack daily and have divided our nation against each by those who are for the war and those who are against it. Remember United we stand, Divided we fall!!!
PLUS!!!
Look at the what happened in Canada! They were right there! That is what we fight- an invisible person or people full of hatred for America living right in our midst! I think it will be something we will have to deal with for the rest of our lives unfortunately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is trolling?<br />
Chris, they are creating Vietnam&#8230;this isn&#8217;t as much conventional warfare as it is guerrilla warfare.<br />
But we have to remember that even though there are people on both sides of this issue in America, that they are Still Americans. Plus, where the media is concerned&#8230;they follow the story and it is usually the negative one. This war is a propaganda war, more a war of wills. Plus look at how many Iraqis have died at the hands of these so-called insurgents. Look at the IED&#8217;s&#8230;that is called low-cost but effective ways to break the will of the people and harm our troops. That is the same tactics that were used in Vietnam to frighten the locals and break the will of the American people. It worked then and it appears to be working now.<br />
 The terrorists have won in a way in my eyes&#8230;they have most people worried about another attack daily and have divided our nation against each by those who are for the war and those who are against it. Remember United we stand, Divided we fall!!!<br />
PLUS!!!<br />
Look at the what happened in Canada! They were right there! That is what we fight- an invisible person or people full of hatred for America living right in our midst! I think it will be something we will have to deal with for the rest of our lives unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am beyond furious at Murtha and the always anti-American media.  It is my understanding that the men involved in the alleged incident at Haditha are highly experienced in the worst combat situations.  They are heroes.  It had occurred to me that ten men were highly unlikely to start shooting 3 and 4 year old children and women (among others) in a situation where some allege that they were not even under fire. I&#039;m just not believing this. I could understand that it is indeed possible that one or two went nuts after seeing their buddy blow up and after working in a very hot zone for a long time. But I could not call that murder. I suppose it is easy for people to judge who are not working in intense heat carrying my weight in gear, all while under threat of a bullet or mortar fire.  I am in awe of our soldiers and marines and have been praying for them faithfully since we first went to Afghanistan. A lot of the MSM is desperate for sensationalism, and quite a few appear to want us to lose.  We must never forget that the insurgents know they can&#039;t win militarily.  Their only hope is to create Vietnam, and have the public break faith through inaccurate reporting from useful idiots in the media and other traitors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am beyond furious at Murtha and the always anti-American media.  It is my understanding that the men involved in the alleged incident at Haditha are highly experienced in the worst combat situations.  They are heroes.  It had occurred to me that ten men were highly unlikely to start shooting 3 and 4 year old children and women (among others) in a situation where some allege that they were not even under fire. I&#8217;m just not believing this. I could understand that it is indeed possible that one or two went nuts after seeing their buddy blow up and after working in a very hot zone for a long time. But I could not call that murder. I suppose it is easy for people to judge who are not working in intense heat carrying my weight in gear, all while under threat of a bullet or mortar fire.  I am in awe of our soldiers and marines and have been praying for them faithfully since we first went to Afghanistan. A lot of the MSM is desperate for sensationalism, and quite a few appear to want us to lose.  We must never forget that the insurgents know they can&#8217;t win militarily.  Their only hope is to create Vietnam, and have the public break faith through inaccurate reporting from useful idiots in the media and other traitors.</p>
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		<title>By: CB</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12351</link>
		<dc:creator>CB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 17:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our Soldiers and Marines (I&#039;m one), really snapped, we would start killing reporters first.  We have a special hate for most journalists.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our Soldiers and Marines (I&#8217;m one), really snapped, we would start killing reporters first.  We have a special hate for most journalists.  </p>
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		<title>By: yankeemom</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12344</link>
		<dc:creator>yankeemom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our Militay isn&#039;t discrediting this country.  But the media certainly are as well as the politicians whose power agendas come first.  The anti-America people talk about the Military Machine ~ what about the Media Machine?  I see that being far more dangerous to the security of this country than our Miliary ever could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our Militay isn&#8217;t discrediting this country.  But the media certainly are as well as the politicians whose power agendas come first.  The anti-America people talk about the Military Machine ~ what about the Media Machine?  I see that being far more dangerous to the security of this country than our Miliary ever could be.</p>
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		<title>By: CJ</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12342</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 07:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>American, that video was created by the same women that Code Pink has been trouncing all around calling American Soldiers heartless killers.  She has no credibility here.  It&#039;s the same lady I took on when I was shouted down at one of her speeches while asking her simple questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>American, that video was created by the same women that Code Pink has been trouncing all around calling American Soldiers heartless killers.  She has no credibility here.  It&#8217;s the same lady I took on when I was shouted down at one of her speeches while asking her simple questions.</p>
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		<title>By: Papa Ray</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2006/06/04/haditha-human-rights-watch-and-cnn/#comment-12339</link>
		<dc:creator>Papa Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 03:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005321.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Malkin &lt;/a&gt; is trying to help a brit. newsrag correct a story with the wrong pictures associated with it.

This is just the start of the media war against the military. They have tasted blood and want to bring the military beast down.

Papa Ray</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://michellemalkin.com/archives/005321.htm" rel="nofollow">Malkin </a> is trying to help a brit. newsrag correct a story with the wrong pictures associated with it.</p>
<p>This is just the start of the media war against the military. They have tasted blood and want to bring the military beast down.</p>
<p>Papa Ray</p>
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		<title>By: Darrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 02:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Murtha being a former Marine Colonel knows full well that the Marine Corps can not comment on an ongoing investigation. His constant rants delivered through the media do more to undermine US efforts in Iraq than all the attrocities alleged or otherwise could ever do.  Let the Military conduct the investigation, and prosecute those that must be held responsible . If after that has been done if Murtha doesn&#039;t feel that justice has been served then he should speak up. Doing so now, before the investigation is completed serves only one purpose, to undermine our mission in Iraq, and those troops deployed in the execution of that mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Murtha being a former Marine Colonel knows full well that the Marine Corps can not comment on an ongoing investigation. His constant rants delivered through the media do more to undermine US efforts in Iraq than all the attrocities alleged or otherwise could ever do.  Let the Military conduct the investigation, and prosecute those that must be held responsible . If after that has been done if Murtha doesn&#8217;t feel that justice has been served then he should speak up. Doing so now, before the investigation is completed serves only one purpose, to undermine our mission in Iraq, and those troops deployed in the execution of that mission.</p>
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