Comments on: Truthful Fraudulence http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=truthful-fraudulence The Web’s Leading Military Blog Since 2004 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:29:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: sue http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36727 sue Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:50:38 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36727 Thank you Guard Recruda for saying that. I keep reading that but then I keep hearing these people on the left screaming about how the goals are not being met. SSG, I think you make a great point. I don't know if any of you have read Brat's post over at Tanker Brothers about Code Pink but its really worth a look as long as you aren't on BP meds!! I just keep wondering what is wrong with these people. I mean we all live on the same planet for Pete's sake!! Or don't we?? Thank you Guard Recruda for saying that. I keep reading that but then I keep hearing these people on the left screaming about how the goals are not being met.

SSG, I think you make a great point. I don’t know if any of you have read Brat’s post over at Tanker Brothers about Code Pink but its really worth a look as long as you aren’t on BP meds!! I just keep wondering what is wrong with these people. I mean we all live on the same planet for Pete’s sake!! Or don’t we??

]]> By: Guard Recruda http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36722 Guard Recruda Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:31:31 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36722 Recruiting is down? I will admit we have hit some bumps in the road, but comsidering the National Guard hit its end stregnth goal back in March. As of Aug 30, 2007, we were at 101% strength. My state has exceeded end strength this year by 400, not counting this month. These idiots will not succeed in their project. most recruiters know if someone is BS'ing them and will not make a commitment. I can usually tell during the first meeting. Hey, I get paid the same if I recruit 1 or 4 a month. I prefer 2-3 to keep me happy and no jackass is going to keep me form doing my job. Recruiting is down? I will admit we have hit some bumps in the road, but comsidering the National Guard hit its end stregnth goal back in March. As of Aug 30, 2007, we were at 101% strength. My state has exceeded end strength this year by 400, not counting this month.

These idiots will not succeed in their project. most recruiters know if someone is BS’ing them and will not make a commitment. I can usually tell during the first meeting. Hey, I get paid the same if I recruit 1 or 4 a month. I prefer 2-3 to keep me happy and no jackass is going to keep me form doing my job.

]]> By: SSgtJ http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36692 SSgtJ Sun, 23 Sep 2007 16:50:42 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36692 Your are right SP, most warriors hate war more than the protected because we know what it is. Sometimes we have no choice but to go to war. I believe General Pace and a host of other retired officers who say that taking Saddam out was the right thing to do. But even IF we were wrong to do that, we can't put him back. The anti-war crowd seems bent on proving that we shouldn't have removed Saddam. Their method seems to be to undermine the President and the war effort. Guess if we fail, then they will claim that they were right all along. Seems to me that if we do fail in Iraq then that failure would be in large part BECAUSE of Harry Reid and his anti-war crowd. I think this is a lose lose for Harry Reid and company. If we succeed in Iraq it will be in spite of Harry Reid and if we lose, I think it will be because of him. I can't imagine that Harry is to stupid to see that. It can only be that he thinks the American People are. Your are right SP, most warriors hate war more than the protected because we know what it is. Sometimes we have no choice but to go to war. I believe General Pace and a host of other retired officers who say that taking Saddam out was the right thing to do. But even IF we were wrong to do that, we can’t put him back. The anti-war crowd seems bent on proving that we shouldn’t have removed Saddam. Their method seems to be to undermine the President and the war effort. Guess if we fail, then they will claim that they were right all along. Seems to me that if we do fail in Iraq then that failure would be in large part BECAUSE of Harry Reid and his anti-war crowd.

I think this is a lose lose for Harry Reid and company. If we succeed in Iraq it will be in spite of Harry Reid and if we lose, I think it will be because of him. I can’t imagine that Harry is to stupid to see that. It can only be that he thinks the American People are.

]]> By: sealpatriot http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36675 sealpatriot Sun, 23 Sep 2007 05:06:14 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36675 I don't like war either, but that doesn't make any of the fights any less significant. It doesn't make any of our wins or loses less important. Of course, as Patriot had said earlier, "they don't know the consequences of their actions if their goals were to be realized". I don’t like war either, but that doesn’t make any of the fights any less significant. It doesn’t make any of our wins or loses less important. Of course, as Patriot had said earlier, “they don’t know the consequences of their actions if their goals were to be realized”.

]]> By: SSgtJ http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36669 SSgtJ Sun, 23 Sep 2007 02:26:05 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36669 Where is the logic with these people? Is my brain so fried that i can't think anymore or are these people idiots? I mean, if all of these people who claim to support the troops actually got what they are after, would the troops be better off? Seems to me, that if we cut funding, the troops on the ground in Iraq would not magically end up back home again. They would be on the ground in Iraq without food and ammo. If the recruiters can't recruit more troops, then the troops on the ground in Iraq either have to stay longer or do more patrols with less people and less sleep. Sounds like a good way to make a mistake and die to me. John Kerry and John Murtha want to make a case that our military regularly commit war crimes. They claim that their experience in combat gives them the right to make those claims. Seems to me, if they knew about that kind of criminal action when they were in combat, then they were obligated by law, to report and prosecute those crimes at that time. Instead, they appear to want to demoralize the troops or make them feel like victoms. Can a team be succesful if they are demoralized? None of this makes since. Is it just me? Where is the logic with these people? Is my brain so fried that i can’t think anymore or are these people idiots? I mean, if all of these people who claim to support the troops actually got what they are after, would the troops be better off? Seems to me, that if we cut funding, the troops on the ground in Iraq would not magically end up back home again. They would be on the ground in Iraq without food and ammo. If the recruiters can’t recruit more troops, then the troops on the ground in Iraq either have to stay longer or do more patrols with less people and less sleep. Sounds like a good way to make a mistake and die to me. John Kerry and John Murtha want to make a case that our military regularly commit war crimes. They claim that their experience in combat gives them the right to make those claims. Seems to me, if they knew about that kind of criminal action when they were in combat, then they were obligated by law, to report and prosecute those crimes at that time. Instead, they appear to want to demoralize the troops or make them feel like victoms. Can a team be succesful if they are demoralized? None of this makes since. Is it just me?

]]> By: Donna http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36667 Donna Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:39:28 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36667 Patriot, I was thinking the same thing that Frank wrote above. I have seen a few of them on tv spouting their anti-war rhetoric. What is sad though, some people will listen to them because they have been in the military and to Iraq. Hopefully their efforts will not hurt recruiting. Patriot,
I was thinking the same thing that Frank wrote above. I have seen a few of them on tv spouting their anti-war rhetoric. What is sad though, some people will listen to them because they have been in the military and to Iraq. Hopefully their efforts will not hurt recruiting.

]]> By: enemy of the republic http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36666 enemy of the republic Sun, 23 Sep 2007 01:31:34 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36666 I agree with you. I don't like the war, but I have yet to see a form of protest that works. And this is counterproductive. I agree with you. I don’t like the war, but I have yet to see a form of protest that works. And this is counterproductive.

]]> By: Frank Staheli http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36665 Frank Staheli Sun, 23 Sep 2007 00:26:38 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/2007/09/22/truthful-fraudulence/#comment-36665 What bothers me to no end about these kinds of groups is that the media think they make good press, because their stories are titillating to their mass audience. and so they give them airtime WAY beyond their relative numbers in or importance to society. What bothers me to no end about these kinds of groups is that the media think they make good press, because their stories are titillating to their mass audience. and so they give them airtime WAY beyond their relative numbers in or importance to society.

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