A SOLDIER'S PERSPECTIVE
THE WEB'S LEADING MILITARY BLOG SINCE 2004
In 2006, the Republicans lost control of Congress under promises by the Democratic congressional candidates to end the war in Iraq. Moveon.org and other groups lobbied hard and spent a lot of money to get anti-war candidates into office. Those candidates informed us of how rotten and terrible the war was going and that they would fix things. Interestingly, I fought every step of the way in trying to inform you, my esteemed audience, of the successes we were having. Patriot and Marcus did so as well. Now we find out that not only were they misleading us – they were downright lying to us just to get elected.
(see transcript below)
“I’ll tell you my impression. We really in this last election, when I say we…the democrats, I think pushed it as far as we can to the end of the fleet, didn’t say it, but we implied it. That if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war. Now anybody who was a good student of Government would know that wasn’t true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts…and people ate it up.” (emphasis mine)
- Representative Paul Kanjorski on August 28, 2007



JD
Kind of like the president and his minions lied to get us to support his invasion and occupation of Iraq. They sort of stretched the facts%u2026and people ate it up.
Donna
Oh No, I can’t believe the democrats lied to us! Shock! Shock!
Critical Facts
Speaking of lying, I look forward to reading Scott McClellan’s book re the deception used by BushCo to hoodwink a nation into a war with Iraq that need not be fought:
http://www.soldiersperspective.us/2008/05/27/democrats-lied-about-iraq-to-get-elected/#comments
Critical Facts
Oops:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10649.html
J.
You ought not mistake the difficulty in getting a particular agenda through a resolute hardcore Repub stonewall with “lying.” You know, like how the Bush administration “misled” us into the war in the first place, according to Scott McClellan. The Dems may be screwed up, but at least they aren’t rubber-stampers like the Repub Congress has been for the first six years of teh Bush administration.
CJ
J., you’re obviously a product of the mainstream media and left wing print press and haven’t actually read McClellan’s book. You see, McClellan doesn’t actually say that Bush “misled” us into war, but that HE was misled by others into this war if anything. Of course, if he was misled, so was virtually every member of Congress as well who had the same information. So were also every other nation on earth that said the same thing. So were President Clinton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, John Kerry, and others.
You’re saying nothing new that this war was based on miscalculations and false information. But, it didn’t originate with the President.
Critical Facts
But as the president has stated himself: “the buck stops here.” The president had the ability to insist on more, and he didn’t.
CJ
CF, agreed and I would go one step further that his religious and personal beliefs perhaps crippled his responsibility in weighing information that may have contributed a very different end result. Personally, I think he still made the right decision, just based on the wrong “facts”.
Critical Facts
Not sure, CJ, how the president’s religious or personal beliefs would cripple his ability to weigh information that was, at best, 50/50 in favor of invading Iraq.
Would an LDS background provide a different basis for analysis/interpretation/weighing of information than a born-again Christian and, subsequently, a different result?
Ryan
He did ask for more continuously in the 18 going on 19 month time period we were trying to appease Saddam. Also, what else was said when the president said “the buck stops here”? Is this the only aspect of the president’s comment that was of use for you in your political games?