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		<title>By: NY-David</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42527</link>
		<dc:creator>NY-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 01:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although this has gotten off topic, I will remark that Obama has never said that he&#039;d give amnesty to anyone.  You may want to check your facts on this one.  No one can fix immigration until they fix the system that got them here, namely INS.  It scores poorly in Federal IT reports and consistantly loses its budget.  Until that gets fixed, the rest is just a bandaid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although this has gotten off topic, I will remark that Obama has never said that he&#8217;d give amnesty to anyone.  You may want to check your facts on this one.  No one can fix immigration until they fix the system that got them here, namely INS.  It scores poorly in Federal IT reports and consistantly loses its budget.  Until that gets fixed, the rest is just a bandaid.<br />
NY-David</p>
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		<title>By: Critical Facts</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42524</link>
		<dc:creator>Critical Facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 23:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sue:

Your comment illuminates why debating fringe elements is like pounding one&#039;s head against a concrete wall.  

Your comment that Obama has proposed granting amnesty and driver licenses to 20 million illegals is without merit, and either you are simply way out of touch or uninformed or both.

Obama, as best I am aware, has proposed to address immigration reform early in his presidency, and his ideas for reform will likely not be much different than those previously proposed by the current president.  Indeed, both Obama and Bush recognize the folly in trying to round up 12 or 20 million folks and bus them across the border - what border, what folks, what buses?  Do the math, sue, it won&#039;t work!

And as to insurance, would you rather 20 million unlicensed and uninsured drivers on the roads, or a fraction of that number, the rest having some sort of driver privilege card (or whatever) and insurance. 

At some point, sue, you have to get real, and hating Obama because of some right-wing talking point that he must be a terrorist because Hussein is his middle name is not real, not to yourself, your family or to anyone else who might listen to what you have to say.  

You should grab a nice cool Kool-Aid and take a break from the heat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sue:</p>
<p>Your comment illuminates why debating fringe elements is like pounding one&#8217;s head against a concrete wall.  </p>
<p>Your comment that Obama has proposed granting amnesty and driver licenses to 20 million illegals is without merit, and either you are simply way out of touch or uninformed or both.</p>
<p>Obama, as best I am aware, has proposed to address immigration reform early in his presidency, and his ideas for reform will likely not be much different than those previously proposed by the current president.  Indeed, both Obama and Bush recognize the folly in trying to round up 12 or 20 million folks and bus them across the border &#8211; what border, what folks, what buses?  Do the math, sue, it won&#8217;t work!</p>
<p>And as to insurance, would you rather 20 million unlicensed and uninsured drivers on the roads, or a fraction of that number, the rest having some sort of driver privilege card (or whatever) and insurance. </p>
<p>At some point, sue, you have to get real, and hating Obama because of some right-wing talking point that he must be a terrorist because Hussein is his middle name is not real, not to yourself, your family or to anyone else who might listen to what you have to say.  </p>
<p>You should grab a nice cool Kool-Aid and take a break from the heat!</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42517</link>
		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So CF how hard will you be laughing when Obama grants amnesty to the 20 million illegals and gives them all drivers licenses as he has proposed?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So CF how hard will you be laughing when Obama grants amnesty to the 20 million illegals and gives them all drivers licenses as he has proposed?</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42515</link>
		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 16:15:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aww CF you&#039;re so cute.  

And Steve you&#039;re right, I&#039;m a 14 year old boy.  You got me.  As far as your wife is concerned, I wouldn&#039;t say something like that because I don&#039;t know her or anything about her.  Except that she married you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aww CF you&#8217;re so cute.  </p>
<p>And Steve you&#8217;re right, I&#8217;m a 14 year old boy.  You got me.  As far as your wife is concerned, I wouldn&#8217;t say something like that because I don&#8217;t know her or anything about her.  Except that she married you.</p>
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		<title>By: Caitlyn</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42508</link>
		<dc:creator>Caitlyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 12:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sue, I suppose if Obama doesn&#039;t like white people, he must really dislike his own mother.

It&#039;s scary to think people base their vote on such soporific, deluded absurdities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sue, I suppose if Obama doesn&#8217;t like white people, he must really dislike his own mother.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s scary to think people base their vote on such soporific, deluded absurdities.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42505</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 11:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This link is from the other day. It goes to a right wing site...

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/mccain_natural_born/2008/07/11/112031.html


Sue, what makes you think I am afraid of a thinking woman? No offense but I don&#039;t necessarily think you are a woman. Just because you put Sue down as your name doesn&#039;t mean you are a woman. You could be a 14 year old boy for all I know. I don&#039;t think of &quot;critical facts&quot; as male or female. As proof I am not afraid of a thinking woman I could point out my wife is a university professor but you would just say something like &quot;well then she must be a liberal so that proves she doesn&#039;t think&quot; etc etc. Either way, nothing you have posted has shown you to be either a woman or thinking.

As far as the flag and patriotism. I&#039;d like to see more respect shown to fewer flags. The local Burger King flys a Garrison Flag, the recruiter&#039;s standard flag is indoors. Who is more patriotic? The local American Legion flys a flag at night, un-illuminated. A nearby car dealership uses the Flag incorporated into banners to sell cars. I&#039;ve seen American Flag door mats. A dollar store had shopping bags with a Flag on them. Which I&#039;ve seen used as trash bags. So go ahead and wrap yourself in the Flag, it doesn&#039;t make you a patriot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This link is from the other day. It goes to a right wing site&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/mccain_natural_born/2008/07/11/112031.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/mccain_natural_born/2008/07/11/112031.html</a></p>
<p>Sue, what makes you think I am afraid of a thinking woman? No offense but I don&#8217;t necessarily think you are a woman. Just because you put Sue down as your name doesn&#8217;t mean you are a woman. You could be a 14 year old boy for all I know. I don&#8217;t think of &#8220;critical facts&#8221; as male or female. As proof I am not afraid of a thinking woman I could point out my wife is a university professor but you would just say something like &#8220;well then she must be a liberal so that proves she doesn&#8217;t think&#8221; etc etc. Either way, nothing you have posted has shown you to be either a woman or thinking.</p>
<p>As far as the flag and patriotism. I&#8217;d like to see more respect shown to fewer flags. The local Burger King flys a Garrison Flag, the recruiter&#8217;s standard flag is indoors. Who is more patriotic? The local American Legion flys a flag at night, un-illuminated. A nearby car dealership uses the Flag incorporated into banners to sell cars. I&#8217;ve seen American Flag door mats. A dollar store had shopping bags with a Flag on them. Which I&#8217;ve seen used as trash bags. So go ahead and wrap yourself in the Flag, it doesn&#8217;t make you a patriot.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42501</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 03:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The only alternative is to nationalize the entire process and become WWII Germany. Are you willing to do that?&quot;

Absolutely!  If the cause is necessary, noble, and worthwhile that is exactly where we should be as a nation.  If not, then we are just being told lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only alternative is to nationalize the entire process and become WWII Germany. Are you willing to do that?&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely!  If the cause is necessary, noble, and worthwhile that is exactly where we should be as a nation.  If not, then we are just being told lies.</p>
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		<title>By: Critical Facts</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42493</link>
		<dc:creator>Critical Facts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 01:17:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sue:

I am focused on the pin thing?  Check back and see who first brought it up.  

Why are you so filled with hatred, sue?  You should really seek some assistance to guide you through these trying times ... and that would be at least the next 8 years and probably much longer!!!  LOL!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sue:</p>
<p>I am focused on the pin thing?  Check back and see who first brought it up.  </p>
<p>Why are you so filled with hatred, sue?  You should really seek some assistance to guide you through these trying times &#8230; and that would be at least the next 8 years and probably much longer!!!  LOL!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sue</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42491</link>
		<dc:creator>sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 23:25:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan is absolutely correct.  I did put &quot;thinking&quot; in quotes, as to MY standard of &quot;thinking&quot; women, they don&#039;t even come close.  They are also as I said not beacons of exemplary womanhood that I would hold up as a defense to anyone or anything.  And you are so focused on the pin thing, you are missing the point as usual.  Your issues are showing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan is absolutely correct.  I did put &#8220;thinking&#8221; in quotes, as to MY standard of &#8220;thinking&#8221; women, they don&#8217;t even come close.  They are also as I said not beacons of exemplary womanhood that I would hold up as a defense to anyone or anything.  And you are so focused on the pin thing, you are missing the point as usual.  Your issues are showing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://militarygear.com/asp/2008/07/13/fed-up/#comment-42490</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CF said; &quot;You may not agree with their policies, but to label them as non-thinking makes you sound entirely unreasonable.&quot;

No, a comment like that makes you sound observant. Also, neither of these woman have broken any glass ceilings. They&#039;ve done nothing remotely close to what women like; Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Lucretia Mott have done. 

Who in fact have broken glass ceilings, the glass ceilings which are keeping both Clinton and Boxer out of the unemployment line. Your claim that they have done things like these exemplary woman is absurd with wreaks of mendacity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CF said; &#8220;You may not agree with their policies, but to label them as non-thinking makes you sound entirely unreasonable.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, a comment like that makes you sound observant. Also, neither of these woman have broken any glass ceilings. They&#8217;ve done nothing remotely close to what women like; Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Lucretia Mott have done. </p>
<p>Who in fact have broken glass ceilings, the glass ceilings which are keeping both Clinton and Boxer out of the unemployment line. Your claim that they have done things like these exemplary woman is absurd with wreaks of mendacity.</p>
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