Comments on: Army IG System Unwieldy and Unhelpful http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful The Web’s Leading Military Blog Since 2004 Wed, 23 May 2012 20:48:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: They Army Hammer http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-155856 They Army Hammer Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:08:49 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-155856 CJ, The best way to solve this issue is to talk to a civilian attorney who knows military law. Have them press the issue through your higher chain of command and work their way up. Your civilian lawyer can also comment publicly on your case which you should not or should I say issue because you have not yet been charged through an article 34 hearing. If I were you I would wait to this happens. Until then you are not yet given your rights under the fifth Constitutional Amendment “right of due process”. As a senior NCO I understand your frustrations with the system and feel that it can be bios’ on many accounts however it’s the system we have. At this point you should know how things work, don’t complain unless you have a better way of doing things. We must remember are TAC and not to air our dirty laundry. In front of the same public that we are trying to protect, GOD forbid that they ever lose faith in us. CJ,
The best way to solve this issue is to talk to a civilian attorney who knows military law. Have them press the issue through your higher chain of command and work their way up. Your civilian lawyer can also comment publicly on your case which you should not or should I say issue because you have not yet been charged through an article 34 hearing. If I were you I would wait to this happens. Until then you are not yet given your rights under the fifth Constitutional Amendment “right of due process”. As a senior NCO I understand your frustrations with the system and feel that it can be bios’ on many accounts however it’s the system we have. At this point you should know how things work, don’t complain unless you have a better way of doing things. We must remember are TAC and not to air our dirty laundry. In front of the same public that we are trying to protect, GOD forbid that they ever lose faith in us.

]]> By: destny http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-143469 destny Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:20:45 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-143469 Get a kick out of this. In 2009 I was diagnosed with narcolepsy and cataplexy. Received UCMJ, company grade, for being late in July. Started going through a med board in Aug b/c the doctors said that nothing would change even with meds. Received UCMJ, battalion, again for the same thing in Dec. Commander Started the paper work for chapter for a pattern of misconduct. I appealed the Art 15, got an answer back in April 2010. Brigade SGM came down and had a meeting with whole chain of command and told them to leave me alone. Commander wrote on my mental health paper work, " soldier has received UCMJ twice for a medical condition." The BN told me to "sell my house and trade in my car to make ends meet" Legal didn't step in until they tried to chapter me and said reasons for pattern of misconduct was a direct result of my medical condition. After that I didn't have too many more problems. I hate what happened to me although I'm 80% right now I lost so much more. I went to everybody including IG they didn't help they said they could do nothing about medical. It was like my I was being punished for being sick. At this time 2010 me and my husband was separated but unfortunately we werre in the same unit. He had been in for 6 years and one morning while doing PT at 5 he was hit by a car. The soldier driving the car had no drivers license, insurance, or registration. Nothing happened to that soldier. My husband on the other hand. didn't get too banged up from it but he couldn't do PT for a while with a fractured ankle. Well meanwhile he gained alot of weight and guess what this same chain of command did to him... Sorry, but they put his ass out 2011 and he still has to have surgery on that ankle. What happened to anybody helping somebody. His chain of command was out of regulations havin them do PT at 5 with no flashlights, and only PT belts. Swept right under the rug. New story in June of 2011, I went to the ER for headaches. They gave me six prescriptions and sent me home. After a month I was still having the headaches and called VA I told them that I had a headache for almost two months. VA told me that the first appointment they had for me was September 2, 2011. I told the lady on the phone maam' I think I will be dead by then. So that night I drove myself back to the ER and they told me nothing was wrong and told me that they wanted to do a CT scan to make sure. Well not even two hrs after this they came back into the room and told me it was a brain aneurysm, did surgery the next day and I lost sight in my right eye. Since then I've lost my home and almost my car not to even talk about my life. The VA gave in 10% for migranes which wasn't the problem at all. It goes all the way back to the army. Nobody checked me for my headaches gave me meds and called it migraines and the whole time it was the cause of my sleep disturbances.... Now I layed in NICU for 6 days and mind you that my husband is still in as of that moment. I didn't get a phone call a visit or a prayer. They say we are a family yeah right. Some of the people in the army sucks and really makes the army look bad. I get emails from the commanders wife all the time but yet she said she didn't know. MY husband had to take emergency leave but the problem is nobody cared. Get a kick out of this. In 2009 I was diagnosed with narcolepsy and cataplexy. Received UCMJ, company grade, for being late in July. Started going through a med board in Aug b/c the doctors said that nothing would change even with meds. Received UCMJ, battalion, again for the same thing in Dec. Commander Started the paper work for chapter for a pattern of misconduct. I appealed the Art 15, got an answer back in April 2010. Brigade SGM came down and had a meeting with whole chain of command and told them to leave me alone. Commander wrote on my mental health paper work, ” soldier has received UCMJ twice for a medical condition.” The BN told me to “sell my house and trade in my car to make ends meet” Legal didn’t step in until they tried to chapter me and said reasons for pattern of misconduct was a direct result of my medical condition. After that I didn’t have too many more problems. I hate what happened to me although I’m 80% right now I lost so much more. I went to everybody including IG they didn’t help they said they could do nothing about medical. It was like my I was being punished for being sick.

At this time 2010 me and my husband was separated but unfortunately we werre in the same unit. He had been in for 6 years and one morning while doing PT at 5 he was hit by a car. The soldier driving the car had no drivers license, insurance, or registration. Nothing happened to that soldier. My husband on the other hand. didn’t get too banged up from it but he couldn’t do PT for a while with a fractured ankle. Well meanwhile he gained alot of weight and guess what this same chain of command did to him… Sorry, but they put his ass out 2011 and he still has to have surgery on that ankle. What happened to anybody helping somebody. His chain of command was out of regulations havin them do PT at 5 with no flashlights, and only PT belts. Swept right under the rug.

New story in June of 2011, I went to the ER for headaches. They gave me six prescriptions and sent me home. After a month I was still having the headaches and called VA I told them that I had a headache for almost two months. VA told me that the first appointment they had for me was September 2, 2011. I told the lady on the phone maam’ I think I will be dead by then. So that night I drove myself back to the ER and they told me nothing was wrong and told me that they wanted to do a CT scan to make sure. Well not even two hrs after this they came back into the room and told me it was a brain aneurysm, did surgery the next day and I lost sight in my right eye. Since then I’ve lost my home and almost my car not to even talk about my life. The VA gave in 10% for migranes which wasn’t the problem at all. It goes all the way back to the army. Nobody checked me for my headaches gave me meds and called it migraines and the whole time it was the cause of my sleep disturbances…. Now I layed in NICU for 6 days and mind you that my husband is still in as of that moment. I didn’t get a phone call a visit or a prayer. They say we are a family yeah right. Some of the people in the army sucks and really makes the army look bad. I get emails from the commanders wife all the time but yet she said she didn’t know. MY husband had to take emergency leave but the problem is nobody cared.

]]> By: Mike Randolph http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-122110 Mike Randolph Tue, 27 Sep 2011 19:56:19 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-122110 Im getting F'd over by my unit in the USAR i cant find the IG of jag numbers.. plz i need help Im getting F’d over by my unit in the USAR i cant find the IG of jag numbers.. plz i need help

]]> By: Chuck Z http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-121246 Chuck Z Fri, 09 Sep 2011 14:16:29 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-121246 NAVY CHIEF- NAVY PRIDE, Do you find it hard to type when you have an mouth full of cock? NAVY CHIEF- NAVY PRIDE,

Do you find it hard to type when you have an mouth full of cock?

]]> By: CJ http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-121244 CJ Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:46:59 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-121244 Yawn. When you have nothing to offer, resort to stupidity and ignorance. Seriously? You want to try and convince me the Navy...never mind. Not even worth another word. Yawn. When you have nothing to offer, resort to stupidity and ignorance. Seriously? You want to try and convince me the Navy…never mind. Not even worth another word.

]]> By: NAVY CHIEF- NAVY PRIDE http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-121243 NAVY CHIEF- NAVY PRIDE Fri, 09 Sep 2011 13:42:45 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-121243 One- CJ- You sound like a B^#CH. Two- You can't pull rank on a BLOG--Really? Wow..... Three- When Army Strong is NOT enough....Call the Navy...we have been saving your Sorry ASSES for 10 years... Four- When you cry like you do....who is leading your Soldiers...wait- It is probably a Navy Master Chief...Idiot One-

CJ- You sound like a B^#CH.

Two-

You can’t pull rank on a BLOG–Really? Wow…..

Three-

When Army Strong is NOT enough….Call the Navy…we have been saving your Sorry ASSES for 10 years…

Four-

When you cry like you do….who is leading your Soldiers…wait- It is probably a Navy Master Chief…Idiot

]]> By: CJ http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-120442 CJ Mon, 22 Aug 2011 03:22:38 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-120442 cj[at]soldiersperspective[dot]us is my email. cj[at]soldiersperspective[dot]us is my email.

]]> By: Loyal Soldier http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-120341 Loyal Soldier Sun, 21 Aug 2011 00:37:16 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-120341 Hello c.j. What an honor to speak with you. I would like to establish dialog with you for I could use your help. Hello c.j. What an honor to speak with you. I would like to establish dialog with you for I could use your help.

]]> By: Dave T http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-97597 Dave T Sun, 26 Jun 2011 14:34:11 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-97597 #1.There has not been any incedents lately,since MAR 10.I did make a legit complaint on myers,for verbal abuse,veral harrassment,and assault.Im not going to detail,on these matters alright,i used my chain of command twice I did a congressional,and 2 IG complaints, onthis asshole.This past Fri while cleaning my pov I believe it was this punk blowing his horn,and yelling something at me from his new pickup truck, after this punk was warned back in mar 2010,not to have any contact with me whats so ever,this cocksucker doesnt seem to get it.SO since the army doesnt give a fuck about its lower enlisted ,I guess I will have to defend himself.and the keyword is IF, This punk tries to provoke me in anyway shape or form.I will use street justice,thats why I dont trust this punk.Remember,he did this to himself.Where Im from this punk would not get away with this shit, he would have his ass handed back to him, but because hes in the army and being a E-7, his chain of command let him carry on like he did, now there covering up for his dumb ass.So yes they are part of the blame.This is not rocket science, Im from the army old school,been,there,seen it done it.Im 51 I can still take care of myself. TRY ME,ENOUGH is ENOUGH.I dont make threats I make promises.Does that answer your question? CHICAGO #1.There has not been any incedents lately,since MAR 10.I
did make a legit complaint on myers,for verbal abuse,veral harrassment,and assault.Im not going to detail,on these matters alright,i used my chain of command twice I did a congressional,and 2 IG complaints, onthis asshole.This past Fri while cleaning my pov I believe it was this punk blowing his horn,and yelling something at me from his new pickup truck, after this punk was warned back in mar 2010,not to have any contact with me whats so ever,this cocksucker doesnt seem to get it.SO since the army doesnt give a fuck about its lower enlisted ,I guess I will have to defend himself.and the keyword is IF, This punk tries to provoke me in anyway shape or form.I will use street justice,thats why I dont trust this punk.Remember,he did this to himself.Where Im from this punk would not get away with this shit, he would have his ass handed back to him, but because hes in the army and being a E-7, his chain of command let him carry on like he did, now there covering up for his dumb ass.So yes they are part of the blame.This is not rocket science, Im from the army old school,been,there,seen it done it.Im 51 I can still take care of myself. TRY ME,ENOUGH is ENOUGH.I dont make threats I make promises.Does that answer your question?
CHICAGO

]]> By: CJ http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/04/29/army-ig-system-unwieldy-and-unhelpful/#comment-97578 CJ Sat, 25 Jun 2011 22:13:23 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=5055#comment-97578 Dave, what seems to be the problem with this SFC Myers? Dave, what seems to be the problem with this SFC Myers?

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