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	<title>Comments on: North Korea Tests Another Nuclear Bomb; Obama Presses for More Talks</title>
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		<title>By: anonymos</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here!</description>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The statements being made by military analyst and our commanders don&#039;t bode well for the &quot;bomb now&quot; crowd.
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â€œI think it would be very difficult, challenging â€” I donâ€™t think there is any question about it,â€ Amos said, adding that it would â€œemasculate all our strategic reserves.â€ For those who remember Gen. Macarthurâ€™s brilliant gambit at Inchon (pictured), Amos delivered a truly worrying assessment that has since been echoed by the deputy commandant. The toll of the last seven years of combat has forced the service to sacrifice its traditionally vaunted capabilities in combined arms operations and large-scale amphibious operations to be the excellent counterinsurgency force it has become.

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&quot;If there were to be a full-scale war, the casualties would be unimaginable,&quot; said Chaibong Hahm, senior political scientist at the California-based RAND Corporation.

&quot;We don&#039;t know where the existing nuclear weapons are,&quot; said Michael O&#039;Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.

Author Robert Kaplan wrote on The Atlantic magazine&#039;s website that &quot;anyone who talks breezily about &#039;helping&#039; North Korea to collapse has simply not learned the lesson of Iraq: The only thing worse than a totalitarian state is no state at all.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The statements being made by military analyst and our commanders don&#8217;t bode well for the &#8220;bomb now&#8221; crowd.<br />
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<p>â€œI think it would be very difficult, challenging â€” I donâ€™t think there is any question about it,â€ Amos said, adding that it would â€œemasculate all our strategic reserves.â€ For those who remember Gen. Macarthurâ€™s brilliant gambit at Inchon (pictured), Amos delivered a truly worrying assessment that has since been echoed by the deputy commandant. The toll of the last seven years of combat has forced the service to sacrifice its traditionally vaunted capabilities in combined arms operations and large-scale amphibious operations to be the excellent counterinsurgency force it has become.</p>
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<p>&#8220;If there were to be a full-scale war, the casualties would be unimaginable,&#8221; said Chaibong Hahm, senior political scientist at the California-based RAND Corporation.</p>
<p>&#8220;We don&#8217;t know where the existing nuclear weapons are,&#8221; said Michael O&#8217;Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, a Washington think tank.</p>
<p>Author Robert Kaplan wrote on The Atlantic magazine&#8217;s website that &#8220;anyone who talks breezily about &#8216;helping&#8217; North Korea to collapse has simply not learned the lesson of Iraq: The only thing worse than a totalitarian state is no state at all.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus Badayus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cyrus Badayus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 May 2009 11:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kim jong il is reportedly gravely ill (no pun intended).  I believe that little man will use a nuke on his way out. Action must be taken.  What? I don&#039;t know...possibly Team America...World Police</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kim jong il is reportedly gravely ill (no pun intended).  I believe that little man will use a nuke on his way out. Action must be taken.  What? I don&#8217;t know&#8230;possibly Team America&#8230;World Police</p>
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		<title>By: NY-David</title>
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		<dc:creator>NY-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 03:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Lil Kim did himself a dis-service by tearing up the treaty halting the Korean War.
NY-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Lil Kim did himself a dis-service by tearing up the treaty halting the Korean War.<br />
NY-David</p>
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		<title>By: PB</title>
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		<dc:creator>PB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 May 2009 00:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again I continue to see everyone criticize this administration for not taking more forceful or lethal actions, but I&#039;ve not yet seen a single person discuss a realistic solution in that regard....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again I continue to see everyone criticize this administration for not taking more forceful or lethal actions, but I&#8217;ve not yet seen a single person discuss a realistic solution in that regard&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: ACCS(AW/SW)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ACCS(AW/SW)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 23:44:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish that Obama would take a page from history and learn from it. The date was 23 Jan 1981. 52 Americans were kept hostage in Iran for almost 1 1/2 years. The President at the time was Carter. During the entire crisis, Carter tried talks with the Iranian leaders. Where did this get us? 52 hostages held for almost 1 1/2 years.
A new President came along who stated throughout his campaign that if any country were to try us, they had better be willing to go all the way and back up their threats. This President was not going to take any crap. He was inaugarated 20 Jan 1981 and on 22 Jan 1981, the hostages were freed. 
Sure talk all you want, but a leader must first go into those &quot;talks&quot; and make it absolutely clear that there will be dire consequences to that nation if they do not cease.
btw, that President was a guy named Ronald Reagan. Anyone ever heard of him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish that Obama would take a page from history and learn from it. The date was 23 Jan 1981. 52 Americans were kept hostage in Iran for almost 1 1/2 years. The President at the time was Carter. During the entire crisis, Carter tried talks with the Iranian leaders. Where did this get us? 52 hostages held for almost 1 1/2 years.<br />
A new President came along who stated throughout his campaign that if any country were to try us, they had better be willing to go all the way and back up their threats. This President was not going to take any crap. He was inaugarated 20 Jan 1981 and on 22 Jan 1981, the hostages were freed.<br />
Sure talk all you want, but a leader must first go into those &#8220;talks&#8221; and make it absolutely clear that there will be dire consequences to that nation if they do not cease.<br />
btw, that President was a guy named Ronald Reagan. Anyone ever heard of him?</p>
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		<title>By: sue05</title>
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		<dc:creator>sue05</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bluster coming out of NK this morning shows a complete disdain for the Obama administration.  Kim Jong Il thumbing his nose at Obama doesnt exactly bode well for the &quot;we need to talk&quot; crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bluster coming out of NK this morning shows a complete disdain for the Obama administration.  Kim Jong Il thumbing his nose at Obama doesnt exactly bode well for the &#8220;we need to talk&#8221; crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: NY-David</title>
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		<dc:creator>NY-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 03:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iraq and NK car similar in one respect.  They as well as many other despotic regimes (I&#039;m talking Iraq, pre-2003) don&#039;t have leaders in a vacuum.  NK has a ruling class that supports lil Kim.  Its these people that got him to back off his nuclear ambitions briefly while these people were cut off from foreign goods.  Ahmadimajad had tapped into this class of people, largely while he was mayor of Tehran.  This class of people will totally kick him to the curb if they don&#039;t think he can deliver.  Much of this depends on a relationship with the West.
Same in Korea.  Diplomatically plug into this class and cut him off and he will be done.  Then park the USS Abraham Lincoln off his shore and tell him that any missle test will be considiered an act of aggresion on our ship and we will act appropriately.
Food for thought.
NY-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iraq and NK car similar in one respect.  They as well as many other despotic regimes (I&#8217;m talking Iraq, pre-2003) don&#8217;t have leaders in a vacuum.  NK has a ruling class that supports lil Kim.  Its these people that got him to back off his nuclear ambitions briefly while these people were cut off from foreign goods.  Ahmadimajad had tapped into this class of people, largely while he was mayor of Tehran.  This class of people will totally kick him to the curb if they don&#8217;t think he can deliver.  Much of this depends on a relationship with the West.<br />
Same in Korea.  Diplomatically plug into this class and cut him off and he will be done.  Then park the USS Abraham Lincoln off his shore and tell him that any missle test will be considiered an act of aggresion on our ship and we will act appropriately.<br />
Food for thought.<br />
NY-David</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 22:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cj, my comments weren&#039;t specifically directed towards you, but rather a lot of your commenters who make it all seem so easy. Could force work, sure it could, but up until this point it didn&#039;t seem like anyone was looking at the entire puzzle.

Also, I don&#039;t think North Korea should be compared to Iraq. The actions that worked with Iraq probably won&#039;t directly translate with Korea. North Korea is a much stronger military force with powerful allies. Sure we have divisions stationed in S Korea, but there&#039;s no doubt that we would need to send more troops down there if they did indeed launch a counter-attack. All of these years later N/S Korea is still a very volatile situation with or even without anyone bombing N Korea. The S Korean government did not recently request our troops to stay stationed there for the added company.

Yes, there&#039;s not a whole lot America can do, sanction wise, to really hurt N Korea. However there&#039;s a ton that China could do in posing sanctions strong enough to cripple that government or force them to change their ways. Which is why the Obama administration is seeking help from China as we speak. That&#039;s the right way to go about this. Bottom line is we have time, its not needed for us to rush into combat without first exploring more appropriate means. As an individual the who cares what others think mentality works, but as a country that&#039;s not going to fly. That only hurts us within the international community and whether people want to admit it or not we need their help and support just as much as they need ours.

David, you&#039;re completely right, but I also wonder what their response would be if we needed to request more money and they were no longer happy with us. Whatever the case we have enough enemies as is and its in our best interest to build/repair as many relationships as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cj, my comments weren&#8217;t specifically directed towards you, but rather a lot of your commenters who make it all seem so easy. Could force work, sure it could, but up until this point it didn&#8217;t seem like anyone was looking at the entire puzzle.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think North Korea should be compared to Iraq. The actions that worked with Iraq probably won&#8217;t directly translate with Korea. North Korea is a much stronger military force with powerful allies. Sure we have divisions stationed in S Korea, but there&#8217;s no doubt that we would need to send more troops down there if they did indeed launch a counter-attack. All of these years later N/S Korea is still a very volatile situation with or even without anyone bombing N Korea. The S Korean government did not recently request our troops to stay stationed there for the added company.</p>
<p>Yes, there&#8217;s not a whole lot America can do, sanction wise, to really hurt N Korea. However there&#8217;s a ton that China could do in posing sanctions strong enough to cripple that government or force them to change their ways. Which is why the Obama administration is seeking help from China as we speak. That&#8217;s the right way to go about this. Bottom line is we have time, its not needed for us to rush into combat without first exploring more appropriate means. As an individual the who cares what others think mentality works, but as a country that&#8217;s not going to fly. That only hurts us within the international community and whether people want to admit it or not we need their help and support just as much as they need ours.</p>
<p>David, you&#8217;re completely right, but I also wonder what their response would be if we needed to request more money and they were no longer happy with us. Whatever the case we have enough enemies as is and its in our best interest to build/repair as many relationships as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: NY-David</title>
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		<dc:creator>NY-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ,
You make some interesing points, but I want to make one remark here.  China, among other countries own US debt instruments (basically treasury notes).  They can&#039;t just call them in whenever they feel a displeasure with us.  If they don&#039;t buy our debt, many others will.  It gives them no power whatsoever.  In fact, it results with just the opposite effect.  If the US goes down, they don&#039;t get paid.  They have a lot of vested interest in helping us.
Don&#039;t give China more power then they deserve.
NY-David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ,<br />
You make some interesing points, but I want to make one remark here.  China, among other countries own US debt instruments (basically treasury notes).  They can&#8217;t just call them in whenever they feel a displeasure with us.  If they don&#8217;t buy our debt, many others will.  It gives them no power whatsoever.  In fact, it results with just the opposite effect.  If the US goes down, they don&#8217;t get paid.  They have a lot of vested interest in helping us.<br />
Don&#8217;t give China more power then they deserve.<br />
NY-David</p>
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