Comments on: Government To Violate Even MORE Civil Liberties http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=civil_liberties_under_attack The Web’s Leading Military Blog Since 2004 Wed, 23 May 2012 20:48:01 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Lee(langoley) http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54105 Lee(langoley) Thu, 31 Dec 2009 01:05:30 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54105 would it not make more sense to use the 90 "puffer" explosive detectors that they already have,and have not installed/maintained?Oh I forgot,that would not violate civil rights!! ps,sorry about my ramble the other night!! would it not make more sense to use the 90 “puffer” explosive detectors that they already have,and have not installed/maintained?Oh I forgot,that would not violate civil rights!!
ps,sorry about my ramble the other night!!

]]> By: Karen Teeter http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54104 Karen Teeter Thu, 31 Dec 2009 00:14:33 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54104 Dad29, you are so right about profiling. It is mere common sense and if not everyone, almost every thinking person does it in their/our minds even if not admitting so. Janet Napolitano PROFILED US! troops returning from war, we that oppose abortion, tea party supporters, we that profess our christianity & conservative views, etc. She WRONGLY profiled us as potential terrorists, but then to Communist supporters I suppose anyone that rightly opposes them deserves that definition in their deluded minds. Dad29, you are so right about profiling. It is mere common sense and if not everyone, almost every thinking person does it in their/our minds even if not admitting so.

Janet Napolitano PROFILED US! troops returning from war, we that oppose abortion, tea party supporters, we that profess our christianity & conservative views, etc. She WRONGLY profiled us as potential terrorists, but then to Communist supporters I suppose anyone that rightly opposes them deserves that definition in their deluded minds.

]]> By: dad29 http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54100 dad29 Wed, 30 Dec 2009 17:02:07 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54100 You're doing exactly what the Statists want. Instead of screaming bloody murder for profiling, which DOES work, you're being 'a naysayer' about full-body screens. Obama & Co. must be forced to begin PROFILING (as GWB should have, damn the torpedos...). Ask Israel how it works. You’re doing exactly what the Statists want.

Instead of screaming bloody murder for profiling, which DOES work, you’re being ‘a naysayer’ about full-body screens.

Obama & Co. must be forced to begin PROFILING (as GWB should have, damn the torpedos…).

Ask Israel how it works.

]]> By: Marcop http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54096 Marcop Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:26:39 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54096 As a Canadian, I remember deploying to Afghanistan in Agust 2006. That I would have to fly over Europe, London subway bombings the month before, that we could not carry more than a bottle of water. I also remember that we had 150 asault rifles in the belly of the airplane, somehow they were not concerned about them. IN a few days, 4000 Canadians are deploying to the NTC at Fort Irwin in California, they are all bringing there asault rifles with them again. The Canadian assault rifle is a version of the M-16, we call it C7A2, is is actualy much closer to the AR-15 than the M-16 of old. It might be funny to see what hapens if we have to put down somewhere along the way. As a Canadian, I remember deploying to Afghanistan in Agust 2006. That I would have to fly over Europe, London subway bombings the month before, that we could not carry more than a bottle of water. I also remember that we had 150 asault rifles in the belly of the airplane, somehow they were not concerned about them.

IN a few days, 4000 Canadians are deploying to the NTC at Fort Irwin in California, they are all bringing there asault rifles with them again.

The Canadian assault rifle is a version of the M-16, we call it C7A2, is is actualy much closer to the AR-15 than the M-16 of old.

It might be funny to see what hapens if we have to put down somewhere along the way.

]]> By: Riverrunner http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54094 Riverrunner Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:11:58 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54094 It struck me as sad and worrying the number of people on the radio this morning that were calling in just clamoring to give up more rights for a perception of safety. More technology isn't the answer - never has been never will be. Come on - the full scan is being advocated by the same idiots that came up with nothing on your lap during the last hour of flight. Really? You're serious? Now the terrorist will just blow up the plane 1 hour and 10 minutes before landing. Yes, yes, yes - I know it was a temporary five-day ruling (aka temporary insanity), but the fact that it made it past the "does this make sense?" check and was implemented is a real statement. The Israeli's have a holistic approach that looks at everyone and then focuses in on people based on actions and other indicators. For example, when was the ticket bought, where has the passenger been traveling, is he nervous, confused, have a pound of PETN stuffed in his under-roos, did he say “Duh, I don’t have my passport, but can I still fly to the Great Satan?” Right now profiling is a four-letter word because American's generally equate profiling with skin color - that's not true profiling. Skin/appearance profiling wouldn't work anyway - there are people from the Middle-East with blond hair and blue eyes too. Indicators people IN-DA-CA-TORS.. It struck me as sad and worrying the number of people on the radio this morning that were calling in just clamoring to give up more rights for a perception of safety.

More technology isn’t the answer – never has been never will be. Come on – the full scan is being advocated by the same idiots that came up with nothing on your lap during the last hour of flight. Really? You’re serious? Now the terrorist will just blow up the plane 1 hour and 10 minutes before landing. Yes, yes, yes – I know it was a temporary five-day ruling (aka temporary insanity), but the fact that it made it past the “does this make sense?” check and was implemented is a real statement.

The Israeli’s have a holistic approach that looks at everyone and then focuses in on people based on actions and other indicators. For example, when was the ticket bought, where has the passenger been traveling, is he nervous, confused, have a pound of PETN stuffed in his under-roos, did he say “Duh, I don’t have my passport, but can I still fly to the Great Satan?” Right now profiling is a four-letter word because American’s generally equate profiling with skin color – that’s not true profiling. Skin/appearance profiling wouldn’t work anyway – there are people from the Middle-East with blond hair and blue eyes too. Indicators people IN-DA-CA-TORS..

]]> By: NY-David http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54089 NY-David Wed, 30 Dec 2009 06:09:30 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54089 I'm not a fan of this as it still won't prevent what happened. There were many flags that should have been caught that weren't that I don't want my government to spend another dime on another program that doens't work. Eight years after the creation of DHS and specific organizations to maks sure intel-sharing should happen and it doesn't. NY-David I’m not a fan of this as it still won’t prevent what happened. There were many flags that should have been caught that weren’t that I don’t want my government to spend another dime on another program that doens’t work. Eight years after the creation of DHS and specific organizations to maks sure intel-sharing should happen and it doesn’t.
NY-David

]]> By: Miss Ladybug http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54087 Miss Ladybug Wed, 30 Dec 2009 04:22:46 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54087 Amen, CJ. Amen, CJ.

]]> By: Karen Teeter http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54085 Karen Teeter Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:15:44 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54085 I believe it was Rahm E. that said "never waste a crisis." THIS administration more than any in our history will seize upon this to strip and chip us, if they can. In fact, they are so in danger of losing the next election for their party that I wonder what type of false flag event, or crisis they may cook up to cause chaos and fear so that they can stay in power. God grants us freedom and our Precious Constitution puts legs on this reality. The time is overdue for our government to Obey us, not the other way around. We are not their cattle, to be prodded, branded and cornered where they wish. This is still a govt. "of, by and for" WE, the people. I'm standing on that and my life is committed to it. Find your inner-sanctum of CALM and self-control. Look the crazy DC crowd right into the eyes, be of good cheer and don't give them an inch or they'll take the whole pie. Don't let them make you RESENT them, watch those emotions trying to arise, and own your soul and your next move within your calm. No wonder the bible says "in patience, possess ye your soul." Makes more sense to me than ever, before. God bless this Republic AS founded, forever. I believe it was Rahm E. that said “never waste a crisis.” THIS administration more than any in our history will seize upon this to strip and chip us, if they can. In fact, they are so in danger of losing the next election for their party that I wonder what type of false flag event, or crisis they may cook up to cause chaos and fear so that they can stay in power.

God grants us freedom and our Precious Constitution puts legs on this reality. The time is overdue for our government to Obey us, not the other way around. We are not their cattle, to be prodded, branded and cornered where they wish.

This is still a govt. “of, by and for” WE, the people. I’m standing on that and my life is committed to it.

Find your inner-sanctum of CALM and self-control. Look the crazy DC crowd right into the eyes, be of good cheer and don’t give them an inch or they’ll take the whole pie. Don’t let them make you RESENT them, watch those emotions trying to arise, and own your soul and your next move within your calm. No wonder the bible says “in patience, possess ye your soul.” Makes more sense to me than ever, before.

God bless this Republic AS founded, forever.

]]> By: RyAZVet http://militarygear.com/asp/2009/12/29/civil_liberties_under_attack/#comment-54080 RyAZVet Tue, 29 Dec 2009 20:51:37 +0000 http://militarygear.com/asp/?p=6427#comment-54080 Before we roll out some supercomputer that will put more people out of a job, crash any time someone sneezes and aids in the violation of more American rights why don’t me do what I was taught by my first NCOIC. Problem: 1. Step back 2. Analyze 3. Make situation simpler 4. Repeat. What will create more jobs, cost less money, be as efficient as possible and not violate our rights. K9 security inspection. They have a nose more powerful than any computer (efficiency), require a handler (jobs) and are much cheaper than some new technology while utilizing a system within our LE and military that is proven and already there. Any dog can do this. So we can utilize a large supply of dogs already to be euthanized and out of work vets and (if the economic situation continues) out of work cops. Hell prisoners are training service dogs for vets. They will have to change one thing, show up early, no liquids over 8 oz. and make sure you don’t smell like pepperoni. Before we roll out some supercomputer that will put more people out of a job, crash any time someone sneezes and aids in the violation of more American rights why don’t me do what I was taught by my first NCOIC. Problem: 1. Step back 2. Analyze 3. Make situation simpler 4. Repeat. What will create more jobs, cost less money, be as efficient as possible and not violate our rights. K9 security inspection. They have a nose more powerful than any computer (efficiency), require a handler (jobs) and are much cheaper than some new technology while utilizing a system within our LE and military that is proven and already there. Any dog can do this. So we can utilize a large supply of dogs already to be euthanized and out of work vets and (if the economic situation continues) out of work cops. Hell prisoners are training service dogs for vets. They will have to change one thing, show up early, no liquids over 8 oz. and make sure you don’t smell like pepperoni.

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